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March 02, 2007


Eli Rabett

So, as I recall, nuclear winter became nuclear fall the consequences of which were failed crops world wide, a much more serious issue today when reserves are low. That, of course, in addition to immediate deaths.

What might be truly amusing would be to rerun scenerios inside a modern GCM at 300, 400, 500 and 600 ppm CO2 equivalent to see what the long term consequences would be.

David Moelling

The nuclear winter escapade is still the perfect example of the political problems around climate change. Here was a horrific scenario with a full exchange of all nuclear weapons and we were supposed to be most concerned with a nuclear winter?

Twenty years ago I did a lot of modeling work in nuclear power and know every trick used at the nation labs to create projects. The short time scales for massive climate change in the popular and eco-green press are surely a result of this type of budget chasing. Not only is transparency needed but also some honesty about the scale of combustion reduction required to achieve some of the more dramatic CO2 reductions.

Rod Montgomery

Don't be too sure that Nuclear Winter is dead.

See for example http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/SciencePolicyForumNW.pdf

On the other hand, perhaps this is just another case in which multiple problems can solve each other. Perhaps the Solution to Global Warming is simply to *give* Iran nukes, and incite them to have a nuclear war with -- say -- China? [just kidding]

Russell Seitz

If Mr. Montgomery looks at the Before and After versions of 'nuclear winter' at:http://www.typepad.com/t/app/weblog/post?__mode=edit_entry&id=14781128&blog_id=506039

before he will discover that the End of the World isn't what it used to be. Despite its surviving authors denial of scientific progress on the subject, it has melted down from twenty below zero , to a frost free single degree of cooling .

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